Wow... really? Need I point out the flaw or are you spotting this yourself?Originally Posted by Littlefeather
Wow... really? Need I point out the flaw or are you spotting this yourself?
Someone brought up mitigation of other games compared to GW2. You really should read.
Again, not every one played that crap game, every message that people convey should take their audience into consideration. That is my point when people talk about WoW in every freaking other MMO like its the standard. Just because its been out for so long doesnt mean anything else but it being out dated for so long, there are other MMO's besides WoW ya'know...
Mitigation in other MMO's are not entirely related to GW2 mitigation. GW2 is different, every one must use some sort of healing, every one must use some sort of manual mitigation (dodge/roll), every one must kite at some points. Not every MMO is like this.
More people have played that crap game than have played any other MMO, literally ever. Hence, it being used as the example. Deal with it.
Now your assuming, not the best practice when assumptions are made on your audience.
/Back on topic
Everyone takes melee hits, some moreso than others. WvW, PvP, PvE, it doesnt matter. Why have a mitigation method thats equalevently compared to hot butter with a warm butter knife cutting straight through it. Yes, alot of HP may give you the feeling of un squishiness, but that feeling is false. Its basically for show in other words. Without the armor all that HP is hot butter.
You're quite hopeless, aren't you. And if you had read the thread, you'd know that those pseudo arguments you bring, where brought a few pages back already. But go ahead and tell us how much you hate WoW one more time, it's entertaiining and totally contributing new things to this thread.
Btw, he wasn't assuming. It's widely accepted as probably the way things are. No one can tell you for sure, but chances are pretty high that it is so. And if not, it won't be off by much.
There are no forum rules against bringing up WoW (I do it myself quite frequent, ask Lagger). No game stands alone. Games borrow from each other, evolve from each other and sometimes it's useful to look at the industry to understand the game you're playing.
If we get nothing else from the conversation besides this is another thing Guild Wars 2 does differently, that's not a particularly bad result It's also not bad to have comparisons people can understand, particularly since a lot of people who have played WoW, now play Guild Wars 2.
/facepalm
Jeez dude. We all get that you don't like WoW but it isn't the end of the world every time someone mentions WoW or compares it to a game you enjoy.
Also, what is Fey assuming?
I know this is beside the point, but is WoW really that bad? Sure, a lot of us moved on, including me, but WoW was an incredible game for many years! The game was polished; everything fit together, the mechanics were balanced, the lore was epic, the graphics weren't top notch but everything was consistent and memorable. WoW has gotten worse over the years, but it's still an incredible game. Personally I quit because I wanted to play GW2, and I only have time for 1 MMO. I'm not going back to WoW, but honestly as much as I love GW2 I still can't say it's better than WoW.
How good or bad something is is completely 100% a matter of taste. WoW was pretty mundane for me...but that's me personally. What actually makes WoW really bad isn't Blizzards fault at all, but you have to try to put yourself in my place to understand.
I played WoW for a few months and it was okay. I saw the potential of the genre, but it was mundane for me. It was never really able to pull me in. I was never involved in what I was doing. That doesn't make WoW a bad game just not the game for me...but here's the problem.
If you didn't like WoW, but every other game was emulating WoW, because of its phenomenal success, you ended up being able to play WoW, or a whole lot of little WoWs. Every MMO that came out for the last five years was like WoW Jr. Which isn't a problem if you like WoW, but it's a big big problem if you don't. I saw the potential of Rift, but it became WoW 2.0 by design. Some people may feel this is a good marketing move, but again, if you don't like WoW, then every time a game comes out that copies it, it becomes more and more irritating.
People who like that style of game had tons of MMOs to choose from. I could play like 3. And one of them was a super-hero MMO which I had no interest in. There were very few games that I could play, no matter how much potential I saw in the genre.
Guild Wars 2 is actually the first MMO I'm enjoying. And I'm not alone. There are a lot of us out there.
So when you say is WoW that bad, well, no, not if you liked it. But when a game to be a major factor in an entire generation of MMOs, it leaves a very bad taste in your mouth.
I see WoW, and have always seen it as no better than a mediocre game.
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