Raids

[fireflyry]

I wouldn't mind at all.Imho any new mechanic/content added that players would enjoy is fine by me.

In saying I'd never play them, mainly because I can't commit the time or "scheduling" play-style that seems to come with the raiding mechanic.Meeting at a scheduled time in-game to do a task that may take up to several hours just doesn't adhere with my lifestyle.I also don't like being placed in situations where if I have to leave the game for any reason I may put my team at a disadvantage or risk of wiping/losing.

It also isn't really why I play games like GW2 either.I like to log in do a few things either solo or with friends/guildies and then bid my farewell at my convenience without stuffing up anything they are up to.I'm sure many of the people I've met in this game feel the same way.That could change dramatically if every time I logged half my guild and friends were locked into raids that take hours.I think this possible effect on the community and social dynamic also has to be taken into account.

It could be hugely counter-productive to the games appeal to the already established majority, which as mentioned by others can be viewed as "casual" although I don't think that's really accurate as opposed to players that just don't won't to be made to feel forced or "locked" in to playing for several hours consecutively to attain a goal.

As such while I have no initial objections to such a mechanic being added it would most definitely have to be implemented in a manner not seen in other games so any unforeseen issues didn't bleed across into the rest of the game.

I pretty much think it will always be something that is found, and should really be looked for, in other MMO's.I don't realistically ever expect it to be added.

[TitanBlade]

The people who raid in WoW now I would wager is a huge percentage due to the "Looking for Raid tool" I dont know a single person who has not used it at some point since it was introduced.

Its a perfect way for casuals to see endgame content whilst not having to raid on set days.

WoW has intoduced challenge dungeons that are fantastic, they are difficult and offer the more seasoned player a way to spice up dungeons. WoW has actually done extremely well at offering PVE content to everyone in this expansion.

I think in time ANET will need to give people the option of raids/harder encounters without making it a mandatory requirement in the game at some point in the future.

[Vayne]

The people who raid in WoW now I would wager is a huge percentage due to the "Looking for Raid tool" I dont know a single person who has not used it at some point since it was introduced.

Its a perfect way for casuals to see endgame content whilst not having to raid on set days.

WoW has intoduced challenge dungeons that are fantastic, they are difficult and offer the more seasoned player a way to spice up dungeons. WoW has actually done extremely well at offering PVE content to everyone in this expansion.

I think in time ANET will need to give people the option of raids/harder encounters without making it a mandatory requirement in the game at some point in the future.

See you don't know a single person who hasn't used it, where as I know several. I know people who don't like raids or dungeons, period end of story. They're out there.

I'm sure there are more people that raid with the looking for raid tool than there were before, that's a no brainer, but it doesn't necessarily make raiding more fun for people who don't like the concept generally.

[Fey]

Yeaahh LFR is pretty braindead. It's actually easier than GW2 explorables, IMO. People that run LFR aren't usually new players interested in raiding/casuals. Usually, they're people who are in guilds that don't have a strong enough team to finish content so it helps them get some experience + gear.

Plus it's something else for raiders to do once they're locked out for the week.

[Lagger]

See you don't know a single person who hasn't used it, where as I know several. I know people who don't like raids or dungeons, period end of story. They're out there.

I'm sure there are more people that raid with the looking for raid tool than there were before, that's a no brainer, but it doesn't necessarily make raiding more fun for people who don't like the concept generally.

Stop your hearsay talk. It's making me sick. Assumptions, speculation and "I know someone who...". You have no idea what raiding is about, how many people raid, why they raid and what raiding does to an MMO. You can't walk around telling other people they're wrong and pretend you have the wisdom when you in fact know jack shit about WoW or raiding, or percentages of player demographics and how people arrive at those numbers. Fucking hate propaganda collected on hate threads.

Cya in another week.

[Fey]

Stop your hearsay talk. It's making me sick. Assumptions, speculation and "I know someone who...". You have no idea what raiding is about, how many people raid, why they raid and what raiding does to an MMO. You can't walk around telling other people they're wrong and pretend you have the wisdom when you in fact know jack shit about WoW or raiding, or percentages of player demographics and how people arrive at those numbers. Fucking hate propaganda collected on hate threads.

Cya in another week.

Whoaaa... hostile much?

It's actually true though, the percentage of the population that focuses on raiding, hardcore/casually is small. Same with PvPers. That's why they put in battlegroups because when it was just per server very few people were actually doing BG's and Arenas.

The WoW dev's have talked about this, that the majority of the population just logs in and does random things without a focus. A huge portion of the population isn't even aware of new expansion packs until they hit an invisible wall telling them that they need to purchase it.

[mayito7777]

I think Lagger had to many lagers and is suffering from raid withdraw syndrome

[Oenanthe]

Hi TitanBlade, (/waves), you do now know a WoW player who has never used LFR tool. In fact I haven't ever really raided, (I did do Molten Core once but as i was about 69 and there was at least half a dozen level 85s along it doesn't really count) I don't care about raids, the only thing about raids that I cared about was that it was the only way to get the high end equipment, the high end recipes for crafting, and the materials for the high end crafting. If you wanted the best equipment, you had to raid, otherwise you were a second class citizen who obviously didn't do anything to warrent good gear. As I didn't want to raid, all my characters have had to make do with what they could get on the AH or as quest rewards until the next expansions came out when the previous expansions epics were bettered by the new basic magic items.

So if ANet want to put raids into GW2 it won't bother me as long as they make it that the raid rewards are no better than can be had through other means, whether its through questing, currency, or crafting. I would much rather see new dynamic events added with tough bosses that you could chose to join in or not, although they could really do to tailor the reward to effort put in a bit more, getting a gold reward in events does seem to come a bit easy and does seem to be linked to damage done a bit too much.

(Sorry if the first paragraph sounds a bit bitchy, the attitude on WoW that only raiders need good equipment is a pet peeve of mine, I may not NEED the neat stuff, but that doesn't mean I don't WANT it, and I am prepared to work in other ways for it)

[Stonesolid]

Haha he totally just turned into a little Cartman.


And I played WoW and never once used the LFR tool. I only ran raids if my guild asked or I needed a certain item otherwise I just stuck to PvP. I also hated dungeons and raids in that game and after the fourth or fifth time running them I thought they were extremely boring. I knew plenty of people who loved them but I never got into them. I did like Kara when it was first released I guess...

[Izzy]

Stop your hearsay talk. It's making me sick. Assumptions, speculation and "I know someone who...". You have no idea what raiding is about, how many people raid, why they raid and what raiding does to an MMO. You can't walk around telling other people they're wrong and pretend you have the wisdom when you in fact know jack shit about WoW or raiding, or percentages of player demographics and how people arrive at those numbers. Fucking hate propaganda collected on hate threads.

You don't really know Vayne, all you see are what he posts on this forum. Surely you know by now how Vayne posts and what his style is. No one here is suggesting they have all the answers to the universe, we are simply discussing things.

So please, let's just take it easy with the attacks. Thank you.