Raids

[mayito7777]

GW2 needs to recreate more Lore, by having only 1 quest line the game loose a lot of beautiful side stories that could be created in every area.

[hlindegar]

Something objective and factual to support my point:

list of GW2 Novels:
Ghosts of Ascalon
Edge of Destiny

list of Warcraft universe novels:
Warcraft: Day of the Dragon
Warcraft: Lord of the Clans
Warcraft: Of Blood and Honor
Warcraft: The Last Guardian
Warcraft: War of the Ancients Trilogy
-The Well of Eternity
-The Demon Soul
-The Sundering
World of Warcraft: Cycle of Hatred
World of Warcraft: The Chronicles of War
-World of Warcraft: Rise of the Horde
-World of Warcraft: Tides of Darkness
-World of Warcraft: Beyond the Dark Portal
World of Warcraft: Night of the Dragon
World of Warcraft: Arthas: Rise of the Lich King
World of Warcraft: Stormrage
World of Warcraft: The Shattering: Prelude to Cataclysm
World of Warcraft: Thrall: Twilight of the Aspects
World of Warcraft: Wolfheart
World of Warcraft: Tides of War
**plus the Sunwell manga and dozens of other graphic novels.

Of course the fact that Warcraft began in 1994 gives them the advantage. I assume that in time Tyria will have a comparable amount.

[mayito7777]

Can I write a novel?

The Messenger of Rata Sum

"It was a thunderous night over the sky of Rata Sum, a bolt of lightning crossed the sky shining upon the metallic hulk of a mysterious spacecraft"

_ What is going on? One of the Council members asked.

... No one answered as a 10 feet tall Golem prototype appeared suddenly in a cloud of lights, smoke and thunder....

_ I am One, the messenger of the Ancients, I have returned with a warning before the time ends.....

[Delvoire]

Can I write a novel?

"It was a thunderous night over the sky of Rata Sum, a bolt of lightning crossed the sky shining upon the metallic hulk of a mysterious spacecraft"

_ What is going on? One of the Council members asked.

... No one answered as a 10 feet tall Golem prototype appeared suddenly in a cloud of lights, smoke and thunder....

10 foot

[mayito7777]

Nope 1 foot, 2 and more feet

[Delvoire]

oh.. ok

[Fey]

Ok something has certainly gone awry. I like GW2 better than WoW, as most of us do, and I defend it when it is attacked all the time. But to say the GW2 has even close to the amount of story as WoW is a joke. WoW has far more lore, and it is all over the place.

To be fair, Warcraft: Orcs and Humans came out in 1994. That's 18 years of story and lore creation.

[justthedrummer]

I love how no one either reads or comments on what I say when I am right about something -.-

That or they are too lazy to read

[hlindegar]

I love how no one either reads or comments on what I say when I am right about something -.-

That or they are too lazy to read

You said raiding was like WvW, which it isn't at all, so I'm not sure what to say about that. I've done plenty of both, and they are both great, but they just aren't similar at all. I do agree with you on the point that raiding should NOT reward players with better gear though.

There, I commented on your post!

[Jim Hunter]

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm not saying that story doesn't have a place. I'm saying the players don't play MMO's for story. They play RPGs for those.

The most common thing you'll hear from a veteran MMO player, regardless of what MMO's they play, is that their first MMO: They read everything. All of the quests, all of the story, everything NPC's have to say. All of it. Then they move onto the next one and realize it's more of the same. Even GW2 has the same basic quests that I've seen in every MMO. Because they're all so similar, it makes it harder to sell that aspect of an MMO to people and even more so; to keep them playing after they've experienced that story.

With single player RPGs it's different. When I want to explore and have a completely free-formed experience with no barriers or restrictions, I play Skyrim, Morrowind, Oblivion, Fall Out 3. When I want a straight forward story experience, I play Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Kingdom Hearts. When I want a free-formed story where my choices change each playthrough, I play Mass Effect, Chrono Trigger, Heavy Rain, etc.

Do you see the issue? All of those titles offer their own unique experiences along with a well told story. MMO's do NOT supply this. Period. They have to focus on such a wide demographic that each area has less emphasis, and Story is the first thing that's usually cut. Even in GW2, there's a lot less emphasis than there could be. It's just too hard to please everyone in an MMO so they please as many people as possible.

GW2 doesn't do a very good job of sucking you into the lore. I don't ever skip the cut scenes since I am trying to follow the story line but watching two people talk to each other gets pretty boring and half the time I zone out.