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Thread: ArenaNet: Linsey Murdock unveils High End Ascended Gear (2012-11-13)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fey View Post
    Because they're ugly :c
    What gear do you like? Because just get that and transmute it, but keep the lvl 2 stats. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bokiz333 View Post
    What gear do you like? Because just get that and transmute it, but keep the lvl 2 stats. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
    I don't want to pay money for that.

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    Look if you want the best gear because you want the best stats that's one thing. That's a choice. But if anyone honestly feels like they're now forced to "GRIND FOR THE NEW GEAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT TO DO CONTENT!"

    I'm sorry. But you're idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fey View Post
    And what content requires you to have the best gear? Please. Explain. Because I must have missed it somewhere.
    As of right now? The higher levels in the fractals dungeons where you need the infused gear. As of a couple months from now? Probably a crap load more content.

    Like I said before (even though you felt like cherry picking the comment) I've already fallen behind and can't help out friends in the fractals and it's not because I don't have the skill, it's because I haven't grinded enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delvoire View Post
    No one is making you read it or respond to it, especially with a stupid meme. If you're going to add memes at least use a good one like spiderman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hunter View Post
    No one is making you read it or respond to it, especially with a stupid meme. If you're going to add memes at least use a good one like spiderman.
    Just like a majority of this thread.. that's your opinion

    Please.. continue with the banter back and forth on misguided information.

  6. #396
    Quote Originally Posted by Fey View Post
    Look if you want the best gear because you want the best stats that's one thing. That's a choice. But if anyone honestly feels like they're now forced to "GRIND FOR THE NEW GEAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT TO DO CONTENT!"

    I'm sorry. But you're idiots.
    I agree, the gear you WANT and the gear you NEED are two entirely different things. Now, did they make gear that you need to reach the highest lvls of a dungeon? Yes. This constitutes what? 1% of the game? It is there for ppl that like to push their guild groups to the max and have something to show for it (frac lvl). The "agony" stat does nothing for any other part of the game.... You can still do everything with blues, but you might not be able to help your friends with frac lvl 11 if you are lvl 1... Just like you can't help them with Arah at lvl 32... This has nothing to do with gear and everything to do with your friends progression in a specific dungeon compared to yours (you can still all do the dungeon just obviously not on the same lvl as you have'nt played it).

    EDIT: to add; This game caters to a wide range of people.
    sPvP - Call of Duty like MMO
    PvE - Standard MMO
    PS - Roleplayers
    WvW - Strategic team play on large scale (with customization, ala PvE stats/abilities)
    Dungeons - 5man group challenges with puzzles and hard bosses
    JP - hand to eye cordination skill challenge
    Crafting - can lvl to 80 without leaving main city

    They have done a masterful job at putting all this in their game with very little affect from one to the other. You can do sPvP with NOTHING else. You can do WvW with NOTHING else. You can do PvE with NOTHING else.

    Some things you needed to do others, like, you could not do dungeons without either PvE, crafting or WvW. Now you can with fractals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fey View Post
    I don't want to pay money for that.

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    Look if you want the best gear because you want the best stats that's one thing. That's a choice. But if anyone honestly feels like they're now forced to "GRIND FOR THE NEW GEAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT TO DO CONTENT!"

    I'm sorry. But you're idiots.
    Which once again goes back to, why gate access to it so severely? Why make it this annoying, grindy thing?

  8. #398
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hunter View Post
    As of right now? The higher levels in the fractals dungeons where you need the infused gear.
    1. Correct. But you get the gear, from increasing your difficulty level. You can't jump into the higher levels without unlocking them each individually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hunter View Post
    As of a couple months from now? Probably a crap load more content..
    2. Speculation is speculation.

    So again, I ask you. What content forces you to get the best tier of gear? Because if you're already working through the difficulty levels, you'll get it naturally and are already willingly doing said content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frunk View Post
    Which once again goes back to, why gate access to it so severely? Why make it this annoying, grindy thing?
    See this is a common misconception when it comes to the "gear grind" and end game, particularly raiding.

    With a normal raiding system, the gear is not gated. The content is gated. The gear allows you to get past the content gate to continue progression. Gear is a means to an ends. It's not the actual goal. The goal is to kill bosses and finish content.

    This content is completely accessible with any gear level. It's actually backwards, because they made the gear the end result and not the content.

    Like, seriously. You don't have to like the system. You can hate it as much as you want. But you're all making it sound like it's something it's not.

    And that's even more frustrating than ArenaNet doing what they told us they wouldn't.
    Last edited by Fey; 11-20-2012 at 04:49 PM.

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    The fact that there isn't content that requires this gear is a temporary situation. The obtainers of it will get even more bored of the rest of the game since everything is that much easier. There will be new more difficult content for them or they'll leave. If there's new content and you want to do it then Ascended isn't a prestige item it's a requirement.

    ANet is implicitly powering the grinders out of the rest of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frunk View Post
    The fact that there isn't content that requires this gear is a temporary situation. The obtainers of it will get even more bored of the rest of the game since everything is that much easier. There will be new more difficult content for them or they'll leave. If there's new content and you want to do it then Ascended isn't a prestige item it's a requirement.

    ANet is implicitly powering the grinders out of the rest of the game.
    Again, nothing but speculation. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm not saying you're right. It could happen that way. But it also may not happen that way.

    Honestly I don't think it will, because in this game gear in general is such a small factor. It really is. Even before the Ascended gear was added. Gear was minimal. Even if they keep increasing item levels like everyone is afraid of, the stat increases are so small that it'll take an exceedingly long time before any type of content will be "unplayable" with lower gear types.

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