Yeah, my Mystic Staff came from one of the recipes. I didn't realize I was still getting skill points. Good, exp does have some use then.
Still not thrilled with the drops, but it is what it is. I'm just storing stuff away waiting for when I have accumulated enough to do something.
With your replies you are denying him that solace. You are telling him that he has no right to feel betrayed or hurt, that Anet was right in their changes to the game, and that there was no lie or transgression of their original vision of the game.
The truth of the matter is that it is irrelevant whether Anet lied or not. It doesn't change the fact that the game is altered, that certain gameplay elements he liked about it are gone and that he hates Anet for it. For jeopardizing and possibly destroying his game. It certainly helps him hate them more though.
So I guess the question is, why do you want to take that away from him. Why do you need so badly to defend Anet, with such enthusiasm and conviction. Do you feel your game is threatened too, and want to protect it by clinging to the idea that there is no danger, that Anet is OK, that they're still a good company ?
It doesn't take truth to ruin a game, whether the company is good or not. Sometimes, it just takes perception. I've watched very good things get killed by hyperbole, to the point where I won't sit by and listen to or watch hyperbole. If I don't feel a company deserves to be called a liar, I'll defend the company.
In the case of Centaur, who is a rock and listened to on these forums, respected by a lot of people, his weight actually carries more weight than others. So his hyperbole is in fact, more damaging. And you know, I'd defend anyone against hyperbole, even if I didn't like them, because I've seen the damage words can do. Choice of words is very important to me. Probably because I have both written and edited professionally.
If someone comes here to say they were lied to, and that in fact didn't happen, then an image that's not true is being painted, and I'm not okay with that. Why should I be?
Sure he's vested in the game and sure he feels lied to. How, exactly does that change anything? This is too complex a situation to paint so simply.
If he's wrong about what would be best for the game, and Anet kowtows to those who think they know better, then the game could in fact be ruined, ruining my enjoyment. This wouldn't be the first time it happened.
If he's right about what Anet is doing, that will become clear over time. I don't see it as clear now and I'm willing to wait. Why should I let one side of a story be told and not tell the other side? Because someone wants to vent and they'll feel better for it? What about the feelings of people who like this game and stopped coming to this forum because of the negativity? Oh, I see, people with complaints, their feelings count and people who like the game their feelings don't, I get it.
Everyone has a point of view and everyone has a right to express it. If the words being used to express that point of view offend me, then I have a right to express that as well.
Frankly, there is so much negativity on game forums, I'm not surprised that people having fun with the game walk away from them. But I'm not sure that leaves a better forum in its wake.
Last edited by Vayne; 12-13-2012 at 05:08 AM.
Okay, I'll step in one last time to make my final say on this, as my name keeps coming up.
Vayne, you call my statements hyperbole and you feel that I am exaggerating the situation, but the way you do this, and with your current choice of words (see several of your previous posts), you actually belittle the situation, more or less ridicule those who have a problem with it, and you make it sound as if it's just those people misinterpreting a few quotes and pulling them out of context, and that ArenaNet themselves has basically done everything right. Which is just as wrong, imho. If you do this to 'protect the innocent' (ie. for the uninformed forum visitors), then you should also be willing to accept negative feedback. People having too high an opinion of the game can be just as damaging (of not more so) than people having a too low opinion of the game.
And that's all I am going to say about this.
The big bad Anet knew all along they were going to do this, and they decided to say something else, just to get everyone's money so they can change the game. I don't see it like this, I don't believe it happened like this, and I think its' the wrong choice of words.
I said, again and again, I see the reason for your concern. And I'll watch and see what happens. That's it. That's not even saying you're wrong, just that your choice of words is something I can't get behind.
I'm sorry you see this as belittling your point of view, but if you MUST say lie then I must disagree.
I also disagree with the statement that gear progression automatically equals gear grind. I've been in games with gear grind. I don't see this as the same thing at all.
It's probably gear grind relative to Guild Wars 1, but not gear grind relative to WoW or Rift or games of that ilk. That's possible.
But just because I don't agree with your defintions and terms, doesn't mean that you're not entitled to your opinion. Saying Anet changed what they've said, however, or said one thing and ended up doing something else is quite different from saying they lied.
I don't believe they lied. I believe that at the time things were said, they had every intention of doing it that way, until they found out it wasn't working. That's not a lie. It's certain a change of direction however.
The DR BS that ANET pulled over us is making near impossible to get anything worth crap to trade or to convert. Until when you are going to remain with your eyes closed? Sheeesssshhhh
Jhn 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.