A lore question

[Nem]

I guess this sub-forum fits this topic the best. So ... why did the Krytans decide to help Ascalon in the first place. I assumed the White Mantle wanted them to bow to Mursaat as well but I didn't find/ couldn't be arsed finding a source to confirm it.

I hope someone has actually found that chunk of lore on wiki or some other place, and that you'll post the link

[Salx55]

When? Current timeline or gw 2 timeline?

[Kaden]

Arrival at Kryta offers little rest for the players as they discover that the land of Kryta is beset by the plague of an undead legion led by a figure called the Lich Lord. After helping the White Mantle (the order that rules Kryta) repel another wave of undead in the Gates of Kryta mission, the Mantle extend welcome to Ascalonians, offering them a settlement north of their capital Lion's Arch. The White Mantle also enlist the players' aid in defeating the undead hordes.

Try replaying the Gates of Kryta mission if you would like a refresher on the relations between the two.

[Nem]

I did, the mission made me ask the question, no there aren't any proper answers there.

EDIT: @Salx55: what is there left to be helped in Ascalon in GW2?

[Salx55]

Ebonhawke. But the Charr will rip the place apart! Hahahahahaha...

[Centaur]

At first, there was a group of Ascalonians (on the run from the Charr, led by Prince Rurik) who were looking for refuge in Kryta. The White Mantle welcomed them, but then (see the missions 'The Wilds' and 'Bloodstone Fen') the Ascalonians discovered that all was not what it seemed, and that the Shining Blade were actually the good guys. So the Ascalonians (and you, the player/the Chosen) helped the Shining Blade in their fight against the White Mantle and the Mursaat, and the Krytans offered shelter to many of the Ascalonian refugees. In addition, the Ascalonians were offered their own settlement to the north of Lion's Arch. A large group of Ascalonians moved there, to found their own community.
In the meantime, however, another group of Ascalonians had decided to take the fight straight to the Charr. They grouped up and invaded the Charr Homelands (this is how the Ebon Vanguard came into existence). They used an ancient tower as their base: the Eye of the North.

Some time thereafter, during the so-called War in Kryta events, Evennia travels to the Eye of the North and asks the Ebon Vanguard for help in driving out the White Mantle for good, in return for everything Kryta has done for the Ascalonian refugees.

How am I doing so far?


[Edit] rewrote the Ascalon Settlement part to fix a few obvious mistakes.

[Salx55]

Did you just say that the krytans gave ascalon eye of the north? The ascalonian settlement is a village to the north of lion's arch.(no outpost)

[Winterbay]

My thought exactly. Eye of the North was already founded when Gwen escaped from the Charr imprisonment (see the BMP) which must've been earlier than Rurik and the rest arrive in Kryta.

[Centaur]

You're both right. I edited my original post to fix this.

[Nem]

I was asking about the events before Rurik decided to move refugees to Kryta. Krytans sent Ambassador Zain to offer Ascalon their help. My question refers to their initial interests there - why offer help to a nation that was at war with you not so long ago help while you have trouble with the undead swarming your lands. Makes no sense to me.


EDIT: @Centaur: you're kinda wrong about Ebon Vanguard pushing into charr territories on their own. The initial Vanguard assault over the wall was led by Duke Barradin (aka he led the complete Vanguard over the wall). Ebon Vanguard formed up after some of the Vanguard branched off to lead the refugees over the mountains.